Thursday, 5 June 2014

When asked why he wrote....

....Samuel Beckett said it was 'in order to leave a stain upon the silence'. Maybe in today's world of overpopulation, overproduction, and overconsumption the more honourable course is to leave a silence upon the stain.

9 comments:

  1. Karl, have you ever heard the BBC production of Beckett's radio play Embers, with Barry McGovern as Henry? Do you think Henry's father, his wife Ada, daughter Addie (and perhaps his unnamed sister) all killed themselves? Sorry if this is too off topic. And btw, I like your posts at ligotti.net. You seem about the only hardcore pessimist/antinatalist left over there.

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  2. Haven't heard that. Don't think there's too much point in speculating about Beckett's characters off the page; he wasn't too mad about it himself. As for the Ligotti site, I think its 'halycon' days of debating AN are over.

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  3. I wonder this myself. But you did, Karl, say a few days ago in response to a post of mine that we need to remain non-arrogant and non-complacent in the fight for AN. Truthfully, if I could escape without harming my family, I would; and I wouldn't care less about those left behind to continue suffering in this mess. It would be their stupid fault for not getting out as well.

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  4. or...do our best to hide our stains with silence and with stillness...

    (very difficult when one is born in a culture of psychopathic activity)

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  5. David Rickerby6 June 2014 at 11:39

    The problem with remaining silent, is that the stain, of overpopulation, over production and over consumption, becomes regarded as a badge of honour. Evidence of our 'dynamic', societies and 'pro-active' cultures. I know it already is,but, just because they're not listening doesn't mean we shouldn't speak.

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  6. In this age of mass media, mass politics, and mass everything else, we can pretty much give-up on the idea of silence. Times have changed since the days of Samuel Beckett – the best we can do is just to focus on leaving stuff stained.

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    1. In these days of mass everything silence is still possible. Reduced silence is better then outright noise. But 'achieving' silence is a kind of anti-work, anti-activity for the brain and it is still possible whilst still alive, but difficult. It is dead easy when dead. Meanwhile I shall savour the idea of a Mr Beckett pictured on the front of a washpowder box with the strapline 'Washes whiter then being human'.

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  7. Eco_h2o@lycos.com8 June 2014 at 19:13

    A bit of antinatalist talk against the crowd's vociferation.

    Dear KARL:

    I don't need to explain you the troubles and damages caused by overpopulation, and even just by a single human existence.

    In the VHEMT (Voluntary Human Extinction) group that maybe you know, I recently organized a contest called "Letter to my never-born descendant".
    I have already received some (about 9) interesting letters which probably are worth sharing with you and other like minded people or groups.

    Since long ago I appreciate your posts from your Blog "Say no to life",
    and I have come to respect you as a serious and worthy antinatalist; so
    I wish to invite you to act as "Jury" to select from those letters the one you like most and recommend it for the "prize" (which is merely a symbolic -small- amount of money), and the compromise to promote the wining letter to be publicised in some journals or other significant media.

    Also, or instead of selecting a letter, we will be honoured if you make some comment in your blog about this contest or about some paragraphs from those letters.

    Below you can read some antecedents of this contest.
    If you agree and answer me to: eco_h2o@lycos.com , I will send you the letters for your consideration.

    I hope you will kindly accept this invitation.
    Your friend
    Eco_h2o
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    //////////////////

    Contest:
    Letter to my never-born descendant.

    Competition:
    Letter to my nonexistent son or daughter (note I don't say "child" as descendants last more as adults than as kids, please address an adult).

    To all members and lurkers in this forum:
    You are summoned to a contest consisting on writing a letter (no more than two pages) expressing your deepest, most beautiful, passionate,
    consciousness-raising, funny, dramatic, happy, sad, nihilistic, optimistic, pessimistic, witty, heartbreaking, poetic, etc., etc. **
    Feelings ......, advice, arguments, frustrations ***
    that you wish to tell to that biological descendant that you never had (or conscientiously avoided bringing the world).

    ** You choose the style and or feelings you prefer to imprint on your letter.

    *** You choose the message and audience to which to convey or share your message.

    This contest is also open to people, male or female, who are already parents of 1, 2, 6, 8 or more children, but the letter must be directed to that additional DESCENDANT that you consciously avoided bringing the world ... if you ever had any awareness to avoid "it".

    The deadline to submit your essay is in two weeks: Sunday, May 25.

    To wining letter will be democratically selected... we will find the way to do it.

    An important and significant prize for the winning letter will be provided. As starter I will donate $ 50 USD. Who gives more ?

    The winning letter will also be sent to the press, TV and other mass misinformation media.

    Ready, GO. We start the contest, time is running.

    Send your contributions directly to this forum, or if you fear it may be plagiarized, send it directly to me, to my personal email and I will post it only until the closing day of the competition.

    Good luck.
    Eco_h2o
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    Dear Lindsay:

    Yes please do it in the Language you feel more comfortable.

    This contests is also open for the Spanish speaking group. If the participation is numerous enough there will be two separate contests; if not I will join all the proposals in one. Some other guy has placed another amount of money for the price.

    Good inspiration and luck to all.
    Eco_h2o
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  8. ....well. Beckett once called writing "dis-improving the silence" .... He also said, "Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness."

    I'm not so convinced he wrote with the thinking that leaving a stain on the silence was really all that good a thing to do....

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