Bestiality is actually legal here in Denmark. We have sex tourists, from the rest of the North, and probably other places,because there's nothing other than trespass they can be charged with. Now, back to reading about how great humanity is!
David, I'm sure Kierkegaard is turning in his grave!
Wasn’t Kierkegaaard a deluded christian, though? (I know he counts as the father of existentialism, but honestly I never cared much for him, as Christianity turns me off.)
Kierkegaard was indeed a Christian, but in all honesty, he was on to the complete horror of things far more than your average atheist, as was Pascal and many other Christian writers.
How a first world country turns worse than the poorest third world country. As a human, I cannot feel more than rage. We are fighting against global warming and preservation of species; but there are shit of subhumans raping animals, and talk about it as a normal thing. That's shocking!
Signed!! I also have a fb group called Close Animal Brothels in Denmark and Germany. This is the sickest legal practice I've ever seen in my life. You people are disgusting and if this doesn't stop I'm going to go there and cut off some members if you get wht I mean. The fact that you break a dogs legs, tie them behind their backs and then FUCK them until they die from internal bleeding. All because your sick and you cant get a real live girl....is fucking pathetic! IM MAKING SURE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD FINDS OUT JUST HOW SICK THESE COUNTRIES REALLY ARE!!! I will be starting my own petition too and I'm going make sure it goes to the right government. Also I've been calling embassies 10 or more time a day, and I have everyone in my facebook group doing it too. BY THE WAY ITS GROWING EVERYDAY!!!
Seems to be a lack of humanity in Denmark. Reading about it is no good if you fail to practice it. Shame on Denmark and the Danes who allow this to continue. Disgusting perverted country
Don't sign the petition fellow antinatalists, animal rape serves our cause (no procreation). The more animals getting raped the lesser females getting knocked up. It's the lesser of two evils. Use any tool to prevent the imposition no matter how sickening.
Wow, you're hardcore, AO!
The "lesser of two evils" argument is always trotted out by modern cynics. How about encouraging No Evil ? Animals are even less able to defend themselves than women or children. Blake wrote, "It puts all heaven in a rage / to see a linnet in a cage." I think that anyone who excuses animal (or any other kind of) rape, even with the weasel-words "Lesser of two evils" should be raped himself, preferably gang-raped in an Indian prison.
Auban, absolutely....how about NO evil! For me an essential part of being antinatalist is protecting animals from repulsive shit like this. Thank god I don't have a child who could turn into one of these animal-raping monsters.
No evil is a fairy tale. Animal rape is here to stay whether it's illegal or not. The animals have no say in the matter. You can eat them, fuck them, kill them. It's a human right(legal in my country). You should see the bigger picture, if it's going to happen at least it will serve a purpose. *Illegal= If a guy gets caught doing it , he does prison time, finds god or whatever, finds a woman, procreates. He has three children. He still has the animal urges so once in a while he rapes an animal and pray god for forgives. He rapes six animals in his lifetime without getting caught (or he does increasing suffering). The child grows up without a father and visits saynotolife when brooding over his sick father. He becomes an antinatalist.The other two procreate.*The guy gets caught, it's legal,he never does prison time. he keeps raping his animal. he never procreates, 12 animals die in the process. No children.If my rape serves a purpose i would glady sacrifice myself to save the unborn, but i doubt it.Antinatalists need only concern themselves with the unborn, everything you do in this life to save the "living" is pointless. You might even do more bad than good.
The 'bigger picture' is Compassion.
AgentOrange, you do have a point that sometimes we need to choose the lesser of two evils. But sometimes we indeed HAVE to choose NEITHER of two evils, especially when the lesser itself is so gruesome.A decent execution for those who show an urge for such cruelty prevents such cruelty as well as procreation. If it counts, it also prevents the pervert from experiencing more unsatisfied urges.
You pervert and pathetic zoophile, if I knew you I wouldn't think twice: I'd kill you
You sick perverted inhuman hideous creature. I hope someone rapes you you disgusting excuse for a human being. And you talk a load of shit clearly not able to formulate an intelligent argument. You are pure evil and do not deserve life. Presumably you don't or can't have sex with women so thankfully no mini evil inhumane creatures being created
AO you are pathetic inhumane evil creature. I presume no woman will have sex with you at least than no mini pervert AO are going to be created. The world will be a better place when you die and I really hope that you suffer when you go. Disgusting pesto that you are
That's just heartbreaking :(
Poor animals, I feel so sorry for them. This fucking human race should be exterminated.
Do we really need any comments here? Given human nature, I don't think there are any depths to which man will not descend anyway.
oh my god, I was already so depressed today, and I've unbelievably sunk a rung lower
Just proves man is the lowest form of beast....and a mistake.
This is just....I want to die...to know animals are tortured and exploited like this, is a horror. May the human race get what it deserves...annihilation. The race as a whole has proven its' unworthiness to exist (aside from a few exceptional individuals, like you, fellow antinatalists). Years ago I started referring to myself as an "animal" because I could no longer bear to wear the title "human." I feel disgraced by being called a "human", because of shit like this, and greatly aspire to be something (morally) better than that.
Yup, it really takes things to a new level of horror and repulsion.
I can honestly say I'm not surprised; humans can and will do anything. There's no depth of depravity that human beings will not sink to. I've never been a huge animal lover but I must say the picture of the dog in Brazil really turned my stomach.What really caught my attention was how widespread this is: in Norway, Turkey, Brazil. My own upbringing would have taught me that this is something 'white people do' (no offense). Yet another reminder that human depravity knows no national, ethnic, or racial barriers.
Before comments start giving Giordano Mirandolla more ideas, I invite readers to see http://nobadmemes.blogspot.in/2012/11/the-universe-is-not-good-thing-so-lets.htmlThere's no denying that humans are a cancerous disease, but "poor" animals? Of course, (almost) all the animals humans regularly exploit / torture are herbivorous, but some of them will fight bloodily for a chance to breed.
You're right on the money. However, I think what makes people think "poor animals" is that they are mindless...and we're not. In relation to a human (who has the potential to not behave in such a disgusting manner) raping an animal, I do see it as a "poor" animal.
I get what you're saying, but in relation to a human (who has the ability to refrain from such a disgusting act) raping a mindless animal, I do think of the animal as "poor animal."
Thanks for the link Srikant, very interesting read (and great blog in general).
Just wanted to say to the Jim who posted and retracted that there was nothing wrong with those comments and if he wants me to repost them I will.
Sure Karl, go ahead.-Jim
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Also, I am in the works of starting a blog. I have put it off for a long time thinking there would be nothing more to say, but we'll see, no entries yet but when something strikes me I hope to pay my little contribution. http://antinatalists.blogspot.com/
Looking forward to the blog, Jim!
Hi Jim,First I should disclose that I'm taken, but....I'm a woman, and I'm vegan, and I'm an antinatalist. I just wanted to let you know that we may be rare, but we're out there (and I even know of a few others who are like me), so please don't despair.BTW, you might want to look into social opportunities through the "childfree" movement. Look for meetups etc. in your area. While it's true that a lot of childfree aren't actually antinatalists, there's at least a higher proportion of ANs to be found among the CF than elsewhere. And there could be some vegans in the mix, too. Milwaukee's a hip town (or so I've heard). It seems like there would be some groups there that are worth looking into (if not in your own town).Anyway, welcome to the gang. I'm looking forward to reading your upcoming blog entries.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I will definitely look into the child-free movement!
Speaking of which, did anyone see Thomas Ligotti's recent horror movie?
i Seriously don't buy that the zoophiles have consensual sex with the animal. They can't speak up or defend themselves whether they enjoy it or not. Damage to the animal's body is not the only indicator of whether it should be a punishable offence or not. I wholeheartedly feel that it should be . If its' made legal ...... well, countries don't have much success keeping even human prostitutes safe, not even those who enter into such of their own free will . How would they propose to ensure the safety of these animals by those who practice bestiality. Its not a sin to feel attraction towards them ( I dont but if someone does then hey! thats just the way they are , they cant help it) but these urges must be controlled . I'm going to run the risk of sounding crass here now .Just because you feel horny after checking someone out, doesnt give you the right to rape them . Zoophiles feed us this shit about the animal not minding , well the cows , the dogs, horses and other pets and livestock that are brutally raped and pimped out Do mind and if you feel that the animal doesn't mind , How the Fuck can you be sure?! unless you're an animal whisperers or can read minds( which i sorely , SORELY DOUBT)