Monday, 5 March 2012

Is it Wrong to feel Misanthropic?

I’ve been feeling quite misanthropic lately and am also, rather strangely, feeling a little guilty over said feeling. It’s bizarre. I mean there are many excellent reasons to be a misanthrope: the selfishness of the average human, the moronic idiocy of so many, the drearily repetitive nature of human life, the misery people inflict on each other (not to mention on animals) and so on. And yet I do still feel a tad guilty. Perhaps it’s because as an antinatalist you’re committed to the prevention of human suffering, and so there would seem to be a corollary that therefore you should value human beings in and of themselves. Yet I find that outside of the small circle of individuals that feature in my own life, I really don’t give a fuck, and, more than that, I tend to find myself reacting more and more with a weary disgust at the sight of humanity. So it would seem that in my case at least it’s a matter of principles over people: I don’t want to see suffering, yet I don’t really care for the average human in his or her normal happy-clapping, ego-satisfying, need-gratifying, self-obsessed mode of being. I wish they’d just all fuck off and leave me in peace, or that I could fuck off and live in the hills and never have to see too many of them together in one place again. So it’s kind of strange, I place more importance on the suffering than the person, although now that I reflect on it, I guess doctors are the same: they don’t give a fuck about you, they’re just there to relieve any mechanical woes your body may be experiencing.

So yes, hating humanity and yet not wanting to see them suffer. Very odd. Anyone else feel the same?

(Apologies as per always lately for the quality of the posts. Jaded, weary, can’t see any point to life, don’t know how I’m going to get through the next forty years etc.)

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  1. Karl,

    The median age in India is 26.2. People here don't usually have children until they marry, and in urban areas, they marry fairly late too, like 24 or later women and 27-28 or even after thirty for men. I've mostly (almost exclusively) seen only urban India.

    So there are a LOT of young people (who suffer -- much suffering resulting from there being SO MANY other young people to compete with), and haven't yet considered bringing another life (yet). That way, there is a lot of people here, whom an antinatalist won't hate, at least immediately.

    Maybe you should spend some time around children ...

    Sad thing is, there is a strong element of filial piety in the culture here. And having so much more time to go through this shit, young people manage to convince themselves in the end that this isn't shit, after all ...

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  2. Hi, Srikant. My misanthropy isn't reserved exclusively for those who've reproduced:-)

    As for kids, I earn my crust by teaching them, so I've no shortage of experience there.

    I think your last point is pretty telling. People, in spite of their youthful energy and rebellion, by and large settle down to reproducing their parents' lifestyle and choices. How depressing. Monkey see, monkey do....

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    1. I'd like to be your best friend...but my weird lack of trust and judgment towards the motives of others would probably thwart the process. You sound really smart, that's the first reason you hate everyone. You are one of the few and far between souls who is conscious to the imbalance of egoic, self obsessed mania that exists in this world right now. Probably 2-4% of people are actually truly aware of this. I'd say 1% can ascend the hatred that you feel and experience bliss. But the odds are in your favor! My only advice is that you keep trying to quell these feelings. They are not to be judged, just experience them. They are a natural indication that something is wrong in your world. And you are totally f'n right about that sistah! Also, you are probably a pitta dosha, which is an Ayurvedic body type that is fiery and prefers order and reason. I am too, and I see alternative healers to deal with these feelings. Acupuncture, massage, and Chinese herbs provide a lot of relief, as well as yoga, and meditation. It may seem strange, but spending time with others actually lessens the issue for me because rather than sit around in my own judgement and hate everyone, I can simply experience moment and CHOOSE my actions, which are innately gentle. That is the way of higher consciousness. I tend to be the smartest person in the room, I'm not sure if that's saying much, perhaps the most conscious is more appropriate. Anyway...what I'm saying is...there is only one way around this...and that's through. Meditate, eat well, focus, and be devoted to your practice of becoming a kinder, gentler, more accepting person. It is difficult. Truly. There are a lot of ridiculous idiots in the world, but try to focus on having compassion for them, because they really just DONT KNOW. Imagine Ants trying to figure out how to start a car...there sort of in that place...however, consciousness is their birthright as well. Thinking good thoughts about them will help facilitate that process. If you'd ever like to talk you can email me sometime @THeLtrainspecial@Yahoo.com. Peace and love, and a little pinch for the nasties ;) .

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    2. Oh goodness..you're a Karl, not a "kari"...sorry...brother. :)

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  3. I've been feeling this way too for qite a while. A couple of years ago subjects of worker exploitation, fair trade, treatmnt o women in islam and other human rights issues used to stir up a lot of emotions in me. But seeing how family-oriented att of these campaigns and movements are I eventually became indifferent and disgusted. And resentful, since all aid and social support, including the state-funded, seems aimes at pwople with hildren, families etc, but there's so little next to nothing support for childfree single individuals like me. I went through a period of hardship and great anxiety just over a year ago with very little income coming in from poorly paid agency work,facing homelessness, and the housing benefits would only cover half rent because I was under 25 and had no children, and unable to claim a series of other benefits for the same reason. So yes, I resent the poor family sentimentality and charity and aid industry because they don't show compassion to me and people like me. I stopped long ago donating, volunteering and supoorting charities and human aid, just as I realized I don't give a fuck about the stupid masses out there who eat animals and have families and the more bucks they get, the more of these things they do. I prefer to offer help or a donation only to people I know personally and like.

    I too am feeling somewhat guilty at not only being indifferent, but also disgusted and even having a feeling of hostility and not wishing them well towards the poor, the starving and the needy masses out there. But this guilt is slowly decreasing, I guess partially because I'm becoming free from the responsibility to "save the world" which so many charities, campaigns etc seem so keen to burden our minds with. Another part is my coming to terms with my own history of poverty, insecurity and struggle. I've come to see my former helplessness and struggling with different eyes: if I am to die (preferrably of my own hand)... so what? I now think. In the past I used to think whether all the worrying and anxiety would ever end? Would I eventyally get tired of so much worrying? Now it seems I have.

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  4. I will give but one example of what drives some of my misanthropic tendencies. I live in one of the college sports epicenters of the USA. The constant, and I do mean constant, hype of it all is inescapable. The fans really think this #&$! MATTERS. I really feel no human kinship with them.

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  5. My misanthropy has died down a lot with the meds. Without them, I can assure you, half of the time I was jumping about the place telling everyone how much I hated them and this world, and the rest of the time I would be sitting depressed. Still, from an intellectual standpoint I can still feel it to some extent. I try to rid myself of it because I understand that free will is a myth and no one is really responsible yadda yadda, but I still find the vast majority of people utterly boring and oblivious to everything around them (that's one thing I like about medication - I don't have that icky feeling of self-delusion, I just literally can't think in the same way I used to be able to).

    I hate humanity (again, not actively), simply because I'm not a part of it. I'm an outcast who has to seriously modify his interests and manner of speech before anyone classifies him above a spider. This causes a lot of resentment, which won't really leave me until (a everyone on the planet wakes the fuck up or (b people accept me for me, not a copycat version of themself.

    In any case Karl, you should look into therapy if you haven't tried it yet. It really does sound like crap to me, but apparently some techniques in particular have had success (scientifically). Not all of it is about self-delusion, some is simple thought-blocking, I think - so you can keep the good antinatalist thoughts but stop anything that's causing you pain. (CBT, at least I think does this). You can even try an online course in CBT if you don't want to see anyone. No pressure to try anything you don't want to.

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    1. Therapists are people.....go figure.

      I am lucky to have one incredibly good friend. Without him, I would feel completely alone in this life.

      I find that by focussing on myself and what makes me feel happy and good, the less room there is to think about how crap people are which can get me depressed. You sort of have to become self involved just like everyone else. Focus on YOU and not the rest of the world and how crap you think things are.

      Instead of blaming the world which is easy and feels good, blame yourself instead :) try it. It's no one else's fault we feel the way we do but our own.

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  6. No-Mind, thanks for the comment. Great stuff there.

    "seeing how family-oriented all of these campaigns and movements are I eventually became indifferent and disgusted".

    Couldn't agree more. Most campaigns are predicated on the basis that we must keep the show on the road at all costs, not to mention tinged with the whole 'sanctity of the family' puke.

    "I don't give a fuck about the stupid masses out there who eat animals and have families and the more bucks they get, the more of these things they do."

    Snap again. That's very much how I've been feeling lately. Observing every day the same greedy, guzzling hordes, all zooming down the piste of their endless ego-slope. Why the fuck would anyone want to further the means by which such people gorge themselves?

    "This guilt is slowly decreasing, I guess partially because I'm becoming free from the responsibility to "save the world" which so many charities, campaigns etc seem so keen to burden our minds with."

    Yup, all of these agenda-driven charities, claiming that their cause and theirs alone is all that matters numbs one's sympathy after a while. It's a shame, as I really don't want to become a heartless cunt, but when you see how people conduct their lives, it's difficult not to start hardening your heart a little.

    Anonymous: Yup, sport. Another great con by which the mob assert their tribal instincts and create exclusionary boundaries. And for what? Nothing.

    Jeez, I'm feeling bilious these days:-)

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  7. Estnihil, thanks for dropping by. Yeah, I know a couple of people who've done CBT and say good things about it, although they were the kind of people who would regard themselves as neurotypically 'ordinary' and were baffled by their depression. I think my bile is caused by genuinely objective facts (as Celine said 'I'll change my soul when the world changes its form'), and the best way to handle it is to improve my Zapffian distraction skills, never something I was great at to begin with. I've always found the awfulness of the human condition to be pretty mesmerising, no matter how hard I've attempted to sideline it. As you say, if people woke the fuck up, it'd be different. Or as Ligotti said, if only the life plane would switch from auto-pilot to manual. It'll crash hard, but at least it'd be more authentic.

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    1. you can only control what you do and the way you feel. Just forget about other people, you can't change anything or anyone only yourself, focus on pleasing yourself :) and live your life- Tune all the noise and nonsense out, create your own little world :) Breathe, smile, enjoy it. We will all be dead one day so we may as well live!.

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  8. Been reading this group of anti-natal/pessimist blogs for a while. I really do like what I see. Thanks.

    That said, I don't think it is "wrong" to be misanthropic at all. It's not really the individual humans that make me loathe ourselves, but the whole damn system in all its depravity. For sure, I'd rather not be around them most of the time, but I have "armor" (metal music, arcane reading and thought, caffeine, alcohol) that keeps me balanced for the most part.

    I also feel the simultaneous urge you describe in the original post. Having been involved in various movements/groups of the Left I can say with some justification that I care deeply about the fate of my species. For what it's worth, economic gains are only part of the demands. Building a radically new society(smashing the traditional family in the process!)is the old dream... But I can't help but feel that the trajectories of human civilization are about as stoppable as a volcanic lahar They just go their own way...smashing all until it they spend themselves.

    Food for thought.

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    1. Sometimes I sit down quietly and tell myself to just SHUT UP. When my mind is chattering and gets flooded with thoughts, ideas, things that have happened in my past, things that may happen it becomes too much so I sit down and tell myself to just shut up out loud....it helps :)

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  9. EO Heim, thanks for dropping by and for the nice words. Agree that the system is a killer, but as Shadow once pointed out, it's people that make and prop up the system, which means that not too many of us can be considered "innocent". Agree with you about the trajectories of civilisation and history being unstoppable. People are generally reactionary, not proactive, which is why attempting to impose order on the naturally fluid nature of things rarely works. As the guy in No Country For Old Men said "Can't stop what's comin'"....

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  10. "I went through a period of hardship and great anxiety just over a year ago with very little income coming in from poorly paid agency work,facing homelessness, and the housing benefits would only cover half rent because I was under 25 and had no children, and unable to claim a series of other benefits for the same reason. So yes, I resent the poor family sentimentality and charity and aid industry because they don't show compassion to me and people like me."

    Thank you! This is exactly what I've been going through now that I'm a superannuated and overliterate fuck who hasn't had the sense to breed me up a blackmail chip. Whenever I have money I have to pay for the greedy baby-makers' spawn; whenever I don't, my used-up carcass can go to hell and starve as far as these pigs are concerned. Fuck them all and the placenta they rode in on.

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    1. Why didn't you turn to prostitution, it's good money?

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    2. Do you even understand what she's talking about anonymous?

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  11. Yup, it's all about the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuutuuuuuuuuurrrrr, and our children, and our children's children and their horrible children and the whole endless and sickening cycle. It's all about the kids, folks, 'all our children's future'. People give up, fuck joylessly and pass the unbearably heavy baton of existence to the next generation of victims. Of course the irony is that those yet-to-come generations aren't going to give a fuck about who got them here, they'll be too busy gorging themselves and fucking the next generation into this purgatory. Human life is one big abbatoir and there's gallons of blood gushing out from under the door....

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  12. I think it's wrong to hate individuals for no reason, but not to dislike human nature the way it is.

    The ultimate issue is that any random person's first 200 descendants will likely reflect the human average regarding behavior, attitudes, selfishness, altruism, etc.

    Given the above, do we really need to create more people if our species is like this? If we start a chain of events that lead to the creation of a despicable person in the future, then we should not take that step. Yes, we'll avoid creating good people as well. Yet even here, we'll be forcing these people into this kind of world under these kinds of conditions without their consent. This person may disagree so strongly with the "Rules of The Game of Life" that they'll wish they weren't forced to play the game - likely in no small part due to the way human nature operates.

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    1. people have always been this way, people will always be this way. Get over it! Once in a while you will meet someone whom you adore, hang onto that hope. Everyone on here is blaming everything and anyone but themselves which is humanities biggest fault. They just can't own it and take responsibility for THEMSELVES. Blah blah blah, just SHUT up already and look in the mirror.

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    2. I think most AN's know they're not paragons, anonymous. And why do you have such a problem with people looking around and not liking what they see? And ultimately your solution is to just bury your head in the sand and be a selfish jerk. What's so great about that?

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  13. Hey, Filrabat. Thanks for the comment. I'd be more hardcore than you, I suspect. I think if you analyse the phrase "good person", it generally means someone who's sensitive to the pain and hostility of the world and decides to participate in it at least as possible while helping their fellow-sufferers as much as they can. In other words, there is no such thing as "good" in and of itself; it's a reaction to pain. Hence "good" people should be spared the futile trial of existence, as indeed should all of the "non-good" people.

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  14. Little in the world could be less essential to sustaining human life than Coca Cola, except, perhaps, for the agent added to give Coke its characteristic (and if you ask me, hideous) color. I say, add to the massive list of reasons to hate humans the fact that someone needed to torture lab animals in order to realize that that color may kill us. Add also the fact that the soft-drink manufacturers are changing their formulation just so they don't have to cop to the cancer risk (as opposed to being primarily motivated to, you know, lower it).
    I agree, it's a good idea to avoid mainstream media, entertainment, propaganda (and products!) It's sickening... this world we live in, and what our fellow bipeds deem to be of value and concern.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/coke-pepsi-make-avoid-cancer-warning-15878247#.T1zQknmymI1

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  15. "Is it Wrong to feel Misanthropic?"

    Maybe, but whether you are or aren't appears to be beyond anyone's control. I had the intrinsic gag reflex towards everything anti-natalists seem to have so often, but it appears to have left me, and honestly, it was never very strong and was an unwelcome guest in the first place. May the same happen to you. Or not. I appear to be one of the few people who prefers to be a pig satisfied than Socrates dissatisfied. Back to gulping down sweet carcinogenic Coke and losing myself in mindless flash games.

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    1. So you recommend becoming what you once hated?
      If I did that I'd just end up hating myself as much as I hate them. That's even worse.

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  16. I feel no guilt over my ever deepening hatred of humanity. Especially the life-loving asshole breeders; may all the miseries in the world befall them.

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  17. First Anonymous, nice piece on Coca-Cola. Yup, the only role the world is happy to recognize you in these days is as consuming drone and money producer. Anything else is superflous to requirements and indeed considered to be self-indulgent and downright suspicious.

    Second Anonymous, fair enough if you're content that way. At least you understand the gag reflex! Thanks for commenting.

    Oskari666, yup, if people insist on perpetuating the pointless game, it's hard to see why one should pity them if that game crushes them.

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  18. Is it wrong to feel misanthropic?

    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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  19. Hey, Garrett! Great to see you here, man! Thanks for assuaging my guily a little:-) How are things with you these days?

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  20. Howzit bud? My pleasure. Can't have you feeling guilty for doing no wrong. You've found plenty of common ground with your fellow ANs, and that's plenty.

    Things are OK. I'll be heading out for a bike ride and walk shortly. Thankfully, I'm currently working just four days a week. It's always good to have more "me" time. If I had to sit and listen to just one more call center female prattle on about their impending larval expulsion, I would've probably gone postal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuosfJ8Ki7Y ...goosfraba... yeah :)

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  21. Karl: So yes, hating humanity and yet not wanting to see them suffer. Very odd. Anyone else feel the same?

    I don't find it odd at all. We usually hate people because of very wrong things they do to ourselves or others - we empathize with those who get hurt by being on the receiving end of the pain, injustice, etc. That's practically the same thing as not wanting to see humanity suffer.

    The problem is that selfishness and desire for dominance, power, and control over situations and even other people is so deeply coded in our genes and/or brain that not even Transhumanist technologies offer any promise to eliminate evil (in practice at least). Too many people would just use the tech to better themselves and/or their offspring without considering their actions as superhumans on others.

    This tells me it's simply time for us to call time on humanity, one person at a time - don't have children, problem solved.

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    1. As to the broader issue of whether it's wrong to feel misanthropic - not if our species as a whole is inclined to cause harm to others, or think lowly of others on petty bases - especially of fellow species members. While I don't advocate showing contempt toward others because of it, I do see it as a recognition of the moral limits of our species. If you judge humans not good enough to deserve one more childbirth, then I see nothing wrong with that - provided you don't kill newborns, pregnant women, or in any other way deny others their own right to reproduce.

      Is all this hypocritical or contradictory? Not if we believe in Suffering Prevention and Suffering Mitigation. Forcing non-procreation onto others definitely violates this principle.

      Sorry for that above tangent, but I want to cover other bases so as not to mislead other readers (especially lurkers).

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    2. You've described exactly how I see things. There is a small percentage of ppl who have a more enlightened view of the world. Perhaps a sort of 'more developed morality', and if you're one of them you will find that the 'great unwashed' will be at best a disappointment and at worst make you feel alienated and depressed by their shortcomings and inability to relate to you.
      This is how I feel anyway.

      I am probably in the 2-4% bracket you mentioned. As an animal activist I have worked hard for years trying to stop the gratuitous violence humans conduct towards other species, but given their hopeless mix of apathy and psychopathy (and even arrogance that they are justified! ) it is impossible to have anything other than disgust for them, given the consequences of what they knowingly do.

      My objective from here is to become one of the 1% you mention and rise above my anger, but so far I have not achieved this.

      So I have 2 choices. ..

      1. I sit angrily 'above' them with disdain and ridicule (and therefore suffer the isolation resulting from that)

      2. Or I join the Coca Cola drinker from a previous post, and become one of them in order to 'fit in'.

      In short I either keep my high standards and hate them for letting me (and more importantly every other species in the planet) down, or

      2. I become one of the herd and hate myself for that.

      What's the answer? Anyone?

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  22. Garrett, glad to hear things are tolerable with you at the moment. Hope it stays that way. Open air experience and physical exercise are one of the few ways left to alleviate the heaviness of being aware of the futility of it all.

    Filrabat, I don't display my misanthropy in public (in London the common expression is that of a grim-faced "keep away from me" anyway, so a muted misanthropy is the norm). As you say, even the Transhumanists can't solve the basic problem of fundamental egotism, so the gradual phasing out of the species seem the only option. Ultimately, even a Matrix style virtual hedonistic universe seems kind of pointless anyway, and would eventually end when the sun goes nova/asteroid hits/ etc etc.

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  23. http://vajramrita.tumblr.com/post/18565657692/i-watch-people-in-the-world-throw-away-their

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  24. Nice poem, Wrooines. Sadly, looks like we're doomed to be on the wheel until we're carried out feet first!

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  25. Get a life antinatalists.

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    1. We have one, anonymous. That's the problem:-)

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  26. I am not a fan of anything that would supposedly make me feel better at the expense of my awareness of how fucked up things are. CBT, Meds, its all a part of the mainstream culture that I don't care about.

    Nothing is going to cure or even offer patchwork for me against this blight of existence other than non-existence. However, I am incapable of hurting myself and thus I am stuck until I am done in by my own body or through some external effect.

    I offer no positivity whatsoever. Just pure, engulfing, all-encompassing negativity. There is no solution AT ALL! No excuses for life, none of the CBT, meds bullshit.. none of the "we will all die one day" bullshit. Its all self-gratifying delusions designed to make oneself feel good about life. Its repulsive.

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  27. I was doing a little research on the sources of misanthropy and this thread came up first.

    Frankly, I don't know why all of you are so unhappy and hate other people. I mean, have you ever been to the beach and seen all the great looking girls (or guys)? My feeling is opposite of hate. Also, if you get out of the urban core and actually see how much open space there is you'll realize we don't have population problem and there are millions of square miles of beautiful open space. And if it weren't for other people, how would we eat? Where would we get our clothes? Who would have invented the internet to let us talk anonymously about about our loathing of those who help make our surroundings civilized?

    Personally, I think we live in a beautiful world and people are just the most advanced form of life to develop over the eons of time. We're a hell of a lot more civilized than animals and we even know how to laugh! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!

    Man this is fun! LOVE YOU ALL!

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    1. Assuming you're not trolling, you might want to take into account the fact that 22,000 people die every day of starvation, 1 million + per year commit suicide, anti-depressant intake is rocketing, 2 billion live on under 2 dollars a day etc etc. But as long as you're enjoying yourself, I guess you don't care.

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    2. Very good point Karl.

      It's been a while since you have started this topic. Has anything changed?

      I'm a misanthrope, and this includes myself. I'm not proud of it and I think I'm doing a very good job hiding it. Most people think I'm very social. I do try to fit in and I would never ever express my true feelings about humanity, because I know how "normal" people would react to it.

      To me, being a misanthropic is a painful, crippling and depressing way of living. I don't know where it's originating from, or it may be just the way I have always been.? Anyway, the last thing I would do is asking for professional help (from people!? haha). I just don't see the point.

      Like you, I'm mostly annoyed with personality traits ...but of course I find some people more annoying than others. There are a lot of people I love and I'd never want to hurt them, even though I unwillingly do so on occasions. And in general, I don't want any innocent human being to suffer. (Note 'innocent', because I do want evil people to suffer very badly, like murderers, terrorists, rapists and such).

      So it really is tearing me apart, because I don't want to cause pain to anyone, and I wish those innocents were all happy, but at the same time I'm so fed up with people and I wish I didn't have to tolerate them. And again, this includes myself. Sadly, I have to be with myself 24/7 (weird, eh?).

      T.

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    3. T,

      I guess that's just the nature of being human. We're a short-sighted, selfish species, who mostly ignore the suffering of others. And hypocrisy, of which I am as guilty of as anyone, is sadly a prerequisite for functioning. That's why if another human being was never born, I wouldn't be shedding too many tears:-)

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  28. I say that it's perfectly logical to hate humans, yet actually never come to a state where YOU harm them, or wish to directly see them suffer... But rather, that it occurs by some form of Proxy.
    Humans are beings drived by basic survival needs while being aware that they will die... So, instead of evolving themselves and the world, they are busy at making their short life as bombastic as possible... So, they become like an ancient Greek person who ate, puked, ate some more, puked again and ate the puke... Just for the sake of "Having more of life".
    This attitude causes humans to destroy all, just to expend themselves.
    Don't worry, they will eventually reach a state in which they no longer got anything to consume.
    I also hold the basic principle that humans are Automatons activated by senses & survivle. There is no soul other then the soul of everything together (Which makes the term "soul" useless). Humans created the notion of Soul in the first place to try and both make themselves more "Important", and to desperately try to extend their life beyond their actual time.

    Anyway... Even if humans are extinct, I can almost guaranty that someone ells (what ever specie) would replace them.

    So, there is only one solution: Let's try to Evolve our race, and make them exit their enourmus self-pitty and blunt ways to express their incapability to just handle the basic truth.
    In potential, humans CAN lead the entire earth to reach a Unity, of making all species join each other in effort to making things a little Nicer.

    I personaly don't believe humans will evolve, they prefer to feel giant and important rather then BE small and cute.
    Furthermore, I hope to live in a post-apocalyptical world, It would be like living in a joke that never ends.
    I wish we were near that...

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  29. I am misanthropic don't worry your not alone

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  30. Misanthropic is such a loaded word. The prefix directly implies some irrationality in the subject himself toward the object of his (justifiable) distaste, namely this species of vile, retarded monkey creatures.

    It's a verbal blame-shifter.

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  31. I have often told myself that I am an existential dichotomy. I have a great deal of compassion for humanity and I empathize greatly with those who suffer and have difficult lives, yet I want nothing to do with people. The sheer fact that most people are oblivious to things that really matter and spend so much time and energy in superfluous matters is simply mind-boggling and altogether frustrating. I find it nearly impossible to engage in conversations with people because I like to explore issues at a deeper level than most people and I end up feeling like a straight-up weirdo. Aside from my partner, I feel very disconnected from humanity in general. I think many people would say I am depressed, but I tend to disagree. I take pleasure in a number of activities and I look forward to enjoying a long life learning new things and exploring new places. That said, I try to avoid people as much as possible, though the sight of human suffering of any kind brings me to tears every time. I don't really have a point here, other than I can relate. Sure wish there was a cure...

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  32. Truth is we as people observably have three choices. One is to just be human. One is to be human and try to be something else in the way that we want. One is to become something else in the way that we want. Emotions shift, emotions cycle and while they are us at any given moment, they also are not the only thing that is.

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  33. I'm 22 and honestly i feel the same :( i dont know what's wrong with society or human generally? I hate to see human being hyprocrite,fake And yet also i hate to see them died,hurting each other or war.
    human also feel hunger of everything, we not create earth but we destroy it.
    i told some of my friends about this but they think i just over-react and take the world too seriously
    this kind of things always mess my head :(
    i dont know is it misanthtope is a good thing or bad thing that happened in my life

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  34. Cledwyn Pus Poetics16 November 2015 at 07:49

    Most people seem pretty misanthropic, for few people accept human beings for what they are. Take the self-professed lovers of humanity, for example. What is it they love? An ideal, not real flesh and blood human-beings.

    People as they are excite our disgust. We hate people who smell, for the most part, yet it is not as if some of us perspire perfume or something. We all smell, no matter how much we try to conceal it.

    People also hate insanity. Yet men are insane.

    I don't want to belabor the point, but I could use many other examples which attest to the dissatisfaction with what human beings actually are, that is, smelly, irrational, fanatical ugly, creatures of expediency, and so on and so forth.

    Misanthropy is far more common than we think, for these and other reasons.

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  35. Eventually if you go far enough, youll realise that all that you hate in others is in you too. This realisation will be turbulant, at the very least, and will only solve itself by forgiveness. Forgiving the ape in yourself and others for being an animal. All that drives us is innate and natural, thus also the will to power, the will to compete for the right to reproduce with whomever is regarded as desirable within your social sphere, etc.
    The reason you see al this is because you spend most of your time in your higher self, which if developed, can look at society and human behaviour from 'outside'. But spend too much time here and youll lose contact with the ape, or lowerself, inside of you.
    It might be a good idea to see a therapist who can guide you down to reconnect with other parts of yourself, for feelings might block you from going there... I strongly suggest a therapist, if only to meet someone who 'knows'.
    And walk the road of acceptance.

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    1. What he he'll are you babbling on about? I take it you're not a misanthrope at all...

      I avoid doing everything I hate about humanity, because people suck. They're greedy, selfish, disgusting, rude and inconsiderate slobs so I try to as much as possible,to have nothing to do with them.

      No amount of therapy or drugs you pop will "cure" it because it's not an illness, it's a complete realisation that humanity is crap. Once you've learned this truth, it's stuck with you.

      For some people therapy might ease small things but if you've been a misanthrope since childhood, it'll be with you for the rest of your life because it's your core self.

      Not all people are bad, there are individuals that are okay and being a misanthrope doesn't mean you can't make friends.

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